Episode Transcript
Speaker 1 00:00:08 Welcome to Lessons from The Helpful Dead, where you will learn the world is not what it seems. And you are much more than you think you are. Here. You'll learn about positive and reassuring messages from supposedly dead people whose main purpose is to help us find out what happens after we die, why we're here, how we got here, where we're going, and discover that you are really a powerful, eternal spirit. I'm Dan McInerney. Today we'll talk about some past civilizations that were quite different from ours. And of course, in the larger scheme of things, uh, they still exist in the now. The entity Seth addressed these, uh, back in 1974, in the 708th session. Let's take a look at what he had to say. Consciousness connected with the flesh then has great leeway spiritually and biologically, and can focus itself in many ways with and through the flesh.
Speaker 1 00:01:09 Beside your own particular orientation, there have been highly sophisticated developed civilizations that would not be apparent to you because the main orientation was mental or psychic. While the physical race itself would seem to be highly undeveloped. Now the point he's making there is that our particular civilization focuses heavily on the, uh, materialization of our thoughts and our desires in physical things, uh, and physical roads and airports. And God knows what anything that you can care to think of. While other civilizations have taken different route, some of them, they focus mainly on the mental and the psychic, and they don't pay that much attention to the physical. So we think, you know, gee, if there's no physical there, how much civilization and advancement in development can there be? But the point he's making is that there can be a tremendous amount of advancement and development. It's just not in material form.
Speaker 1 00:02:21 And next he discussed hibernating civilizations. Here it is in some of their own private dreams. Many of my readers will have discovered a reality quite as vivid as the normal one, and sometimes more so. These experiences can give you some vague hint of the kind of existence I am speaking of. There are also physical apparatuses connected with the hibernation abilities of some animals that can give further clues as to the possible relationships of consciousness to the body under certain conditions. For example, consciousness can leave the corporal mechanism while it remains intact functioning. But at a maintenance level, when optimum conditions return, then the consciousness reactivates the body. Such behavior is possible not only with the animals and systems different from your own. There are realities in which physical organisms are activated after what would seem to you to be centuries of inactivity. Again, when the conditions are right, to some extent, your own life and death cycles are simply another aspect of the hibernation principle.
Speaker 1 00:03:38 As you understand it, your own consciousness leaves the body almost in the same way that messages leap the nerve ends. The consciousness is not destroyed in the meantime, or you can't help but think of, uh, bears when he talks of hibernation. And, uh, really the, the bears try to fill themselves up with salmon and then, uh, hibernate and sleep for a long time, leaving their bodies, uh, inactive but intact. And I also think in terms of Bob Monroe and is out of body journeys where he would be gone a while, uh, but his body would remain intact. A portion of his consciousness supported the functions of the physical body. But here he's describing civilizations that will have their physical organisms hibernate, not just for a season as the bears do, or not just for an hour or so as Bob Monroe did, right? But they would let their physical bodies hibernate for perhaps centuries of our time if we came across them.
Speaker 1 00:04:46 I don't know whether we would think they were dead or in a coma or sleeping. Uh, that is if we could come across them, then you rate the worst civilizations that hibernated for centuries of our time and, uh, when they chose, they would reactivate it. Uh, next Seth talks about how our bodies die many times during a lifetime. Here are his comments. Now, in the case of an animal who hibernates, the body is in the same state, but in the greater hibernation of your own experience, the body as a whole becomes inoperable. The cells within you obviously die constantly. The body that you have now is not the one that you had 10 years ago. Its physical composition has died completely and many times since your birth. But again, your consciousness bridges those gaps. They could be accepted instead. In which case it would seem to you that you were say, a reincarnated self at age seven or 14 or 21, the particular sequence of your own awareness follows through.
Speaker 1 00:05:51 However, in basic terms, the body dies often and as surely as you think it dies. But once in the death, you recognize on numerous occasions it physically breaks apart, but your consciousness rides beyond those deaths. You do not perceive them. The stuff of your body literally falls into the earth many times as you think it does, only at the end of your life. So he's pointing out that with our particular consciousness, uh, our awareness bridges the gaps between these many, uh, decompositions and rebuildings of the physical body that happen during what we call a lifetime. He continues again, your own consciousness triumphantly rides above those deaths that you do not recognize as such in your chosen three-dimensional existence. However, and in those terms, your consciousness finally recognizes a death from the outside. It is nearly impossible to pinpoint, to pinpoint that intersection of consciousness and the seeming separation from the body.
Speaker 1 00:06:59 There is a time when you, as a consciousness decide that death will happen when in your terms you no longer bridge the gap of minute deaths that were not accepted. He then continues to, to discuss how we have a preset notion of how long the body's going to last and therefore, uh, our lifetimes and our notion of death is quite different from other civilizations. So he continues here. Consciousness decides to leave the flesh to accept an official death. You have already chosen a context, however, and it seems that that context is inevitable. It appears then that the body will last just so long and no longer the fact remains that you have chosen the kind of consciousness that identifies with the flesh for a certain period of time. Other species of consciousness, of a different order entirely and with a different rhythm of experience would think of a life in your terms as a day and have no trouble bridging that gap between the parent life, death, and new life.
Speaker 1 00:08:07 So what he's describing here, uh, may well apply to other species of consciousness. But as you might know from previous episodes, he's also beginning to describe the consciousness of what I've called the big self that understands it has different focus personalities like you and me going on at the same time. And they're living and dying. But the big self knows itself, uh, as living and conscious the whole time. In fact, uh, he, he actually says that in the first sentence of, uh, the discussion that I'll continue. He says, some individuals find themselves with memories of other lives, which are other days to the soul. Such persons become aware of a greater consciousness reaching over those gaps. That's the big self, and realize that earthly experience can contain a knowledge of existence in more than one body. And of course, the, the big, the big self and those that has a lot of physical bodies going on, uh, with various focused personalities in different, uh, times and places, uh, with different characteristics inherently then consciousness affiliated with the flesh can indeed carry such comprehensions the mind of man, as you know, it shows at least the potential ability for handling a kind of memory with which you are not usually acquainted.
Speaker 1 00:09:31 This means that even biologically the species is equipped to deal with different sequences of time while still manipulating within one particular time scheme. This also implies a far greater psychological richness quite possible, again, within corporal reality that's ours, in which many levels of relationships can be handled. Such inner knowledge is inherent in the cells and in ordinary terms of evolution, it's quite possible as a quote, future development. So he is making the point that we as focus personalities just as we are today, have the potential to develop an awareness of the lives of other selves that are other, other focused personalities that are also part of the big self. So we can become aware of these and regardless of the time in which they, uh, materialize on the earth. Now, he goes on to make another point about how every single human, every single human, uh, is like a universe in ourselves, and we have fantastic potential.
Speaker 1 00:10:43 Here's what he says, knowledge is usually passed down through the ages in your reality, through books and historic writings. Yet each individual contains within himself or herself a vast repository, direct knowledge of the past in your terms through unconscious comprehension. The unknown reality. Much of that reality is unknown to you simply because your beliefs close you off from your own knowledge. The reaches of your own consciousness are not limited because you accept the idea of a straight line movement of time. You cannot see before or after what you think of as your birth or death. Yet your greater consciousness is quite a aware of such experience. Now, ideally, it's possible not only to remember past lives, but to plan future ones now in greater terms. All such lives happen at once. Your present neurological structure makes this seem impossible, yet your inner consciousness is not so impeded.
Speaker 1 00:11:53 So every one of us is capable of expanding our awareness to include not just the past, but also the future and the past and futures, and the presence of some of the other lives that the soul is experiencing through its, uh, various incarnate selves. And of course, in larger terms, if we remember that this is all happening at once, it seems a little bit less wondrous, that we could be aware of all these realities. Uh, Seth went on then to describe a practice element, and I won't go over that, but I'll just, uh, repeat a couple of sentences. He said in larger terms, there are other entire lives, which for you are forgotten, essentially as yesterday is. These two, however, are a secondary series of activities riding beneath your present primary concern. They are as unconsciously a part of your present and as connected with it as yesterday is.
Speaker 1 00:12:53 So he's saying that, uh, past lives that we've forgotten are still, uh, alive within our consciousness. Uh, we are just not aware of them in our present situation, but they do affect us in some way, uh, via what we might call the subconscious or a secondary reality. One other, there's one other, um, surprising point he makes. Uh, in that, uh, suggestion of, of a practice element. He says to other portions of yourself, you would seem to be a sleepwalker, full creative participation in any moment, however, awakens you to your own potentials and therefore allows you to experience a unity between your own consciousness and the comprehension of your physical cells. Those cells are as spiritual as your soul is. Well, I don't know about you, but I have never thought of the cells of my physical body being as spiritual as my soul is. Of course, he prefaced that by talking about, uh, the, uh, comprehension of the cell, the unity rather, between the consciousness of the cells and our own consciousness, and the fact that our own consciousness rides upon the consciousness of all the cells.
Speaker 1 00:14:07 And as you know, from past, uh, episodes, uh, we know that the every single cell has a memory of everything it's ever been a part of. So there's a lot of non-material or spiritual, um, reality in the cells as there is in us. You might recall discussions of a consciousness gestalt or the degree of complexity of consciousness. And as humans, we have a degree of complexity of our consciousness that is greater, uh, than the, uh, consciousness of the cells. That's a smaller gestalt, so to speak. But theirs, uh, is maybe larger in, in a sense. Uh, if you could think of that, uh, seems kind of funny to say larger when you're talking about a cell. But, uh, there is, is is, uh, a, a more expansive, let's say, in that they have knowledge of every, uh, entity they've been a part of, whether it's, uh, human body, a leaf, an animal, or a plant or whatever. So anyway, with that, I'm going to close, uh, today's discussion. And once again, I'm Dan McEnany, bringing you lessons from the Helpful Dead.
